lolburners

May. 29th, 2007 05:59 pm
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A while ago, I came up with the idea of putting LOL images on pictures of people at Burning Man. Certainly, it's a humor rich environment and by volunteering for several years I've gotten to see just how deep the mine of humor goes.

However, there are legal restrictions of use of photos taken at burning man, so I didn't do anything with it. However, [livejournal.com profile] tongodeon came up with a good way to get around Burning Man's legal restrictions on use of photography taken at Burning Man.

I encourage you to make pictures of burners with lolcat-style text.  But use photographs *not taken at burning man* or taken at the event in 1999 or earlier so that the fairly extreme legal policies on photographs don't apply.   Also avoid violating other event's guidelines, but do post.  And when you do post, post them to this flickr pool.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/lolburners/

If you haven't tried it yet, you should; these things are fun, and fun is good.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com
Remember that it's also possible to use images taken at the event on or before 1999.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
thanks. edited.
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Date: 2007-05-30 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com
Supposedly any picture you take at Burning Man is actually the property of Burning Man. They grant you a license to use your pictures in ways that they agree with.

What I don't understand is where their right to my property comes from. I understand that it's their event, but if I go over to your house and take pictures you still don't own them. Not without us signing an agreement of some sorts. If I sign the use agreement that's one thing but if I don't then I don't see where their right to my photos comes from.

Date: 2007-05-30 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eejitalmuppet.livejournal.com
I am not a lawyer, but I suspect that it comes from a vast majority of burners not being the types to attempt a legal challenge to this kind of bullshit...

Date: 2007-05-30 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com
Actually I just checked the back of the ticket which says use of images taken at burning man other than for personal reasons is prohibited.

Of course that's different than the professional agreement which gives Burning Man the images and grants the photographer a limited license. In that instance, anyone who publishes images without Burning Man's permission is infringing on Burning Man's copyright. In this case, I think anyone who republishes an amateur photographer's images is violating the amateur's copyright, not Burning Man's. The amateur could still sue the lolburner-maker but *maybe* Burning Man can't. I'm not sure, and I have inquiries in with the relevant authorities.

Date: 2007-05-30 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaniellen.livejournal.com
OMG. that is teh funnest things evar.

Date: 2007-06-02 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djmermaid.livejournal.com
just because they assert this (or whatever) doesn't mean they can actually make it stick. you can clearly do it to your own images, which you own! it's really just a prohibition on commercial use.

I can't see them actually being able to defend it if you aren't making money off of the images (burners gone wild etc.) the photographer would be more likely to have a case against you, and even then, it's not like you can really demonstrate damages, so what are they going to get out of it?

oh, hi. I wandered in here looking for "lolburners" and found yur discussion. ;-)

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