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I think that there was a 'tell' on the Galactica itself about one of the characters being a cylon in the last episode. It paralleled the early tells for sharon.

If you want to find a cylon in BSG, look for the characters with a history of abuse. Since the sleeper agents should never contact their families, they should have a very strong reason not to every try to investigate their own cover.

I also think this is the context of D'Anna's apology when she sees the final five.

At least some of the final five will be based on greek myth, this is because the show overall seems to have a weird lamarckian chain of being. The world is arranged from bottom to top, with creator above creation. Therefore, at the start of the series, it was roughly animals -> animal-like cylons (raiders) -> centurions -> humanoid cylons / humans -> lords of kobol -> (the one/the source).

A lot of really crazy things have happened as a result of the cylon's attempt to move up the chain through forcing 'evolution.' But I think the most likely of them is that the lords of kobol (who are 5) are paralleled by the five unseen cylons, who are trying to supplant that level on the chain in the same way as the humanoid cylons attempt to supplant humanity.

What will happen? The real key to all this (that the cylons in general don't get) is that organic life is just that, organic. It's messy, and sticky, and probabilistic rather than this great chain. I think eventually the war will settle down to a standstill after another 20 or so years, when enough human-cylon hybrids exist to make the sides even more questionable than they are now.

MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritterfae.livejournal.com
Are you referring to Starbuck?

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
yes, for several of the points.

But, I suspect that Kat is/was a cylon and will be coming back eventually as well.

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritterfae.livejournal.com
OH! Interesting...

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domichan.livejournal.com
Wouldn't she have been resurrected, then?

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wire-mother.livejournal.com
maybe, but as one of the Final Five, she wouldn't have been resurrected in the same place as the Known Seven.

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-22 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
Possibly, or it could be that the other cylons are either kept in storage until they got to the right facility, or keep to themselves in some other fashion. It would be unlikely that they're on the same set of ships,

I'm sort of hypothesizing two separate fleets of cylons overall, with different purposes and tasks. Galactica has about 1000 people on it, I suspect a baseship has 24-50 active humanoids at any time.

Re: MEGA-SPOILER

Date: 2007-01-23 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domichan.livejournal.com
You know, duh. You're right. Unless they don't resurrect the same way. Perhaps there's only one copy of each and they're indestructible. Or, like you said, they re-appear in some other fashion. Hmm...who would D'Anna likely apologize to?

Date: 2007-01-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nothings.livejournal.com
Or, you know, they're just making this shit up as they go.

Date: 2007-01-22 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
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Date: 2007-01-22 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wisn.livejournal.com
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Date: 2007-01-22 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domichan.livejournal.com
When you mentioned abuse, I figured on Starbuck as well.

Kat, Kat...who was she again?

Date: 2007-01-22 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritterfae.livejournal.com
She's the one who flew through the storm and died of radiation poisoning a few episodes back.

Date: 2007-01-22 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwx.livejournal.com
starbuck's continual competitor, who went from nowhere to leading pilot (And CAG) in a relatively short time.

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